Camp Pahatsi Projects 2010
Trees – Dead & Dying
Description - Take down dead and dying trees. Offer downed trees for fire wood. Move slash into piles for chipping, burning, etc.
Manpower
Check on need for a hold harmless agreements.
Trained volunteers and California Department of Corrections (CDC) – These trained personnel may take down trees that are three or more inches in diameter.
Contact CDC and request they schedule Pahatsi again this year. Their acceptance is dependent on the CDC schedule.
Untrained volunteers may take down trees that are less than three inches in diameter and limb downed trees using hand tools.
Downed trees should continue to be offered as fire wood.
Materials/Tools/Equipment
Trained volunteers and CDC supply their own chain saws, chippers, etc.
Untrained volunteers supply their own hand tools, such as hand saws, pruners, etc.
Time required – This is a continuing project due to the trees that are continuing to die.
Cost – The council pays for the volunteers’ gas and oil which has been about $200 per year.
Picnic tables
Description – Dismantle unusable picnic tables. Cut usable wood for tent platforms, etc. Stack wood in the maintenance area until needed.
Manpower – Volunteers can complete this project. Power tools and driving/transporting materials can be done by adults. Youth can use non-powered hand tools to dismantle the picnic tables, transport/load wood, and assemble platforms.
Materials/Tools/Equipment – Hammers, pry bars, wrenches, power saws, hand saws, hack saws.
Time required – When we are able to get back into the camp, we will determine the amount of time required.
Cost – None until it is time to reassemble the project.
Tent platforms
Description – Separate 2 x 4 and 2 x 6 platforms. The 2 x 4 platforms are mostly destroyed. The plywood tops may be reusable. Use 2 x 6 for the frames. Ring shank nails should be used to attach the plywood to the frame.
Manpower – Volunteers can complete this project. Power tools and driving/transporting materials can be done by adults. Youth can use non-powered hand tools to dismantle the picnic tables, transport/load wood, and assemble platforms.
Materials/Tools/Equipment – Hammers, pry bars, wrenches, power saws, hand saws, hack saws.
Time required - When we are able to get back into the camp, we will determine the amount of time required.
Cost – None until it is time to reassemble the project.
Electricity for Water Projects
Description of Alternatives – Electricity for pumps in wells – Three alternatives need to be assessed by a licensed electrical contractor and the Nevada County Building Department. 1) Reconnect electrical cable under lake 2) connect generator to electrical panel in tank house, 3) install electrical lines either above or below ground around lake and possibly all the way to the tank house. Most, if not all of these projects, need to be completed by licensed contractors. The details on alternatives 2 and 3 are not included because these would be more likely done during the building of the lodge.
Description – Alternative 1 – Reconnect electrical cable that ran from boat house to tank house.
The cable has two wires with no ground wire. The cable is not in conduit. It is exposed neither on the lake bottom nor in the trench and is at an unknown depth underground.
This could be the cheapest alternative if the county requires only reconnecting the electricity to the remaining cable in the lake from the temporary power pole which is about 100 feet away.
The county will have to determine what needs to be done to meet current county/state codes.
Manpower – Depending on county requirements, an electrical contractor can connect the remaining cable to the temporary power pole panel. Volunteer labor on the project will probably be minimal.
Materials/Tools/Equipment – This depends on the county requirements. If the county requires only reconnecting the cable would require new able from the panel on the temporary power pole to a new panel on the concrete slab of the destroy boat house and then connecting the remaining cable into the panel. New requirements of different cable, conduit, and/or trenching will determine the total needs.
Time required – depends on county requirements
Cost - Estimates of the cost on this alternative cannot be done until the County Building Department determines requirements
Description – Alternative 2 – Use a generator to temporarily supply electricity at the panel in the tank house.
Manpower – The County may or may not require a licensed contract to complete this project. In the tank house a new electrical panel that allows the generator to be plugged into it needs to be installed. Depending on the county building department requirements for venting the generator exhaust will depend whether the generator is allowed in the tank house or another building will be required. In either case, the generator will need to be secured.
Materials/Tools/Equipment
Five to eight amp generator, preferably propane, would be needed
Electrical panel into which the generator can plug,
Physically secure the generator in a building and vent exhaust
Time required – Depending on county requirements, the amount of time will vary. A new electrical panel will take minimal time. Housing the generator in a secure building like the tank house or in a separate building will vary the amount of time to complete the project.
Cost -
Generator – used; 5-8 amp; about $6,000
Electrical panel – cost to be determined by county and/or contractor
Building materials to house generator either in tank house or separate building; cost would depend on county requirements.
Description – Alternative 3 – The County may require installation of electrical lines either above or below ground around lake and possibly all the way to the tank house.
Manpower - The County probably will require a licensed contract to complete this project.
Materials/Tools/Equipment – The materials
Time required - The amount of time to complete this project will depend on the county requirements.
Cost – Licensed contractors will make bids on the project based on the county requirements.
Water Projects – Mainline Pipe
Description - Shower house
Connect water from the mainline to the shower house. The water line has been repaired from the tank house to a water box in the water front area. Depending on the route taken because of rocks and boulders, the distance could be up to 1000 feet. If the water box or water line can be found that came from the lodge, the distance could be as little as 150 feet.
Description - Cabins
The water pipe to the cabin nearest the shower house needs to be checked for damage, repaired and connected. The other cabin can be connected at later time. The nearest water connection will need to be determined.
Description - Decontamination
Once the system is connected, the entire system will be decontaminated according to County Health Department directions. In the past, the volunteers could complete this decontamination.
Manpower - The amount of volunteer and/or contractor labor allowed will depend on county requirements.
Materials/Tools/Equipment
Materials/Tools/Equipmentwill depend on county requirements. The trencher or backhoe will be the major cost. County Building will set the depth of the trench. Trench depth, rocks and boulders probably would make hand digging extremely difficult, if not impossible.
Pipe size needs to be determined from end of the repaired main line to the water box next to the shower. The probable size is 1½ inches, but it could be up to 2 inches.
The number of feet required depends on the route chosen, but could be about 1,000 feet.
Time required
The amount of time required to complete the project depends on county requirements and access to power equipment. Connecting and installing the pipe will take minimal time. Decontamination of the wells, tanks, and pipe lines will be determined by the county. The amount of time to decontaminate normally will not take long, but the system has been broken and abandoned which could cause problems.
Facilities Maintenance
Description – General – Joint use facilities in the camp have not been maintained since the camp closed, except for minor roof repair of the shower building. Woodstock/Royal Gorge is supposed to contribute building maintenance.
Description - Exterior walls of buildings – winter damage to the exterior wall surfaces need to be repaired.
Manpower – Volunteers can complete the project.
Materials/Tools/Equipment – Scrapers, sandpaper, brushes, paint roller, paint sprayer
Time required – Depending on power tools available, each building should take a couple of days.
Cost - Needs to be estimated
Description – Roof - The roves needs to be checked for leaks on all buildings. The shower house roof was temporarily repaired last summer. The metal roofing was attached with nails that were too short. The nails need to be replaced with screws. Whether the metal roof can be reused needs to be determined. The wood underlayment needs to be checked for rot. The water heater vent pipe/cap needs to be replaced and a snow protecting cover installed over the cap.
Manpower – Volunteer labor could complete this project.
Materials/Tools/Equipment – The amount of damage will depend on the materials/tools/equipment necessary.
Time required – The amount of damage will depend on the amount of time to complete the project.
Cost – The amount of damage will depend on the cost.
Description - Shower Building Interior – The water heater and water pipes need to be checked, including the toilets and shower plumbing valves.
Manpower – This project can be completed by knowledgeable volunteers.
Materials/Tools/Equipment – The materials/tools/equipment needed will probably be minimal unless damage is found.
Time required – The amount of time to complete this project should be minimal unless damage is found.
Cost – The cost should be minimal unless there is damage found.
Septic System
Description – Have a professional company determine what needs to be repaired for the septic system can be used by the shower building and adjacent cabin.
Manpower – Have the contractors that installed the system check and submit a bid.
Materials/Tools/Equipment – Taken care of by the contractor
Time required – The amount of time required to complete the project will be determined by the contractor.
Cost – The cost will be determined by the contractor. There should competitive bids.
Property lines
Description – All boundaries need to be eventually surveyed before the camp is reopened. The south and west property lines especially need surveying.
Manpower - Volunteers have unsuccessfully tried to determine the property lines.
A licensed surveyor needs to determine the correct lines.
The council needs to get legal advice if camp facilities and roads are not on camp property.
Materials/Tools/Equipment - Materials/Tools/ Equipment will be supplied by the surveyor.
Time required - The amount of time to complete the survey would be about a week. Although knowing exactly where the boundaries are located, this probably does not need to be done until building the new facilities and opening the camp proceeds.
Cost – A volunteer has not so far been successful. The approximate cost would be $10,000.
Service road
Description – The current service road is possibly off GEC property and is often not passable during camp set up.
Moving the current service road on the other side of the lake closer to the lake would require moving trees, moving dirt, fill dirt, culverts to direct winter runoff water away from road. Snow/rain water problems that already exists would probably be exacerbated if the road was moved closer to the lake.
Another service route should be determined which would probably either by the flags area or further up the trail to Story Rock and over to Eagle’s Nest.
Manpower – Depending on the results of the survey will determine this.
Materials/Tools/Equipment - Depending on the results of the survey will determine this.
Time required – Depending on the results of the survey will determine this.
Cost - Depending on the results of the survey will determine this.
Contact: Kathy Neuburger
